This pseudo JIRA, does not cease to make its small market on P. A and distributes "our small treasures" daily on another site .... while being foamed for its good heart!!!
So, dear Jira, the day you will sweat to scan your donations on other sites, we will see no problem ... but, know that there, you are spotted, even spotted ...
Moreover, I can't believe it, now we even receive emails on the personal mailbox (different address from the one of P. A), here it is :
Hi
I noticed that you are looking for sheet music. Here is a trick to download a lot of it for free.

you go to http://partitions-accordeon.com/

you type "beep" for the user code and "beep" for the password and you will have 4 days to take all the partitions which is on this site the whole free.

to do quickly this scheme can self-destruct quickly.

who do we say thank you to?
Signature pseudo ...

We will have seen everything, but they do not know my side "unearthing" it is called .... denial ...

03/06/2015
16 Replies
Unknown
03/06/2015
Yes, I agree in every way.

courage.

SuperAccordon
Vernonait
04/06/2015
Thank you once again Dear Cindou for being so vigilant and for taking care of our site and especially of all that it contains (scores, messages, Forum, advice)
It's still daring to come and help yourself at our place and to offer elsewhere....without any participation without effort without purchase without contribution.... I have only one word..... I am ashamed for this person.
Fortunately we have very competent and devoted members who can alert us and ensure the proper functioning of our site.AmitiésVernonait
MOUSTIQUE
04/06/2015
Hello

Everything is said in the 2 messages

HONOUR to this kind of people

GRRRRRR, because if I don't put a lot of scores, I know in any case I imagine the work done by the "big" suppliers on P.A.
And moreover they do not only put scores, those there in general take an active part in the life of P.A. THANKS to them, they will recognize themselves.

Cindou I hope you could block this system because it's really too big... although they will pay for one year and will continue to do their business for FREE
slade
04/06/2015
Hello, the person concerned has been banned.
Cavag31
04/06/2015
Hello,
I would like to propose the deletion of these 5 trial scores which apparently are mainly used by pirates.
There are currently almost 30,000 scores on the site (and much more if you count all the booklets that are counted each time for one score).
I think that whoever "adheres" (in the noble sense) to PA will find something to "make money" (I don't like that so much) on his 15 €.
Once again, thanks to the whole team, and sorry I can't satisfy more requests.
Cavag31
Unknown
04/06/2015
good evening to all. to answer cavag31.

I quote you
- "I will propose the removal of these 5 test scores'.

if you do that more new members knowing that the renewal rate is not 100%.

- "apparently they are mainly used by pirates.

no there are other methods.


- "There are currently almost 30,000 scores on the site (and many
more if you count all the booklets counted each time for a
score).
I think that anyone who "adheres" (in the noble sense) to PA will find something to "make money" (I like that less) on their 15 €."

the question to ask is the following.
where does this score come from?
for a certain number they were requested by cindou11 on the cavern with the partition (site of free exchange). it is amusing to see that you fire a person who takes here to share free and to congratulate cindou11 who takes ayeur to make pay here.

My respects to all.

SuperAccordon


Unknown
04/06/2015
good evening

I hit the nail on the head?

I apologize.

4290 personal scores shared thank you.

good night to all.
SuperAccordon
Unknown
05/06/2015
In answer to krysto !!!!! cindou is not the only one ! I think that dan 95 / jodi / and those conserned of which me mème have their words to say. For my part the covers of its musics; as makes it understand cindou, prove our good faith. This site was for me (passionate) a providence; and I intend well that it prospers! what I share is here, not elsewhere! JIRA AND ITS ACCOLITE to the interception of their scheming, characterizes well a fraud for the purposes of a unfair competition. And this with impunity. Then I will have only one word to say if you type or its hurts; made it elsewhere !!!!!!
jurachromatique
05/06/2015
So much time and energy wasted on people who are not worth it.
I think that the pure and simple suppression of the "trial" period
of the "trial" period could be a solution, the 15 € contribution
remains symbolic compared to the proposed choices, then those who do not want to participate go their way .....
Sincerely,
Jurachromatique

Vernonait
05/06/2015
I fully agree with Jurachromatique ;
I am for the suppression of the trial period, the contribution of 15€ being really more than correct....so if new people want to recover the scores, I think that the 15€ will not slow down their adhesion.
Good music to ALLVernonait
Unknown
05/06/2015
hello to all

dear harmojack you answer me in these terms.

- "cindou is not the only depositary! I think that dan 95 / jodi / and those conserned of which me mème have their words to say."

you forgot all those who were present at the very beginning and who deposited files often jpg in a spirit of total sharing. i remember that at the time the access to the site was free.

- "prove our good faith."

Sharing scores is already not legal we do not have the right to distribute them. we are all of bad faith. thanks to our approach more way to find scores in music stores in the provinces. We are all frauds.
if you don't respect the copyright why do you blame those who don't respect the right to enter this site.

- "This site has been for me (passionate) a providence"

yes, I think that we are all passionate about ' accordion or music. But if you are fifteen years old you may not have fifteen euros.

-JIRA AND HIS ACCOLITE at the interception of their schemes".

I'll go and also a naive enthusiast who did this without thinking. she didn't even change her pseudo to say!!!! full of PA members are on the other forums under various speudo.

- "So I have only one word to say if you type where it hurts; do it somewhere else!

If I understand correctly, you don't want us to talk anymore? you want me to leave?

Thank you, dear harmojack, for answering me.

My respects to all.

SuperAccordon
slade
05/06/2015
People who do not have 15 euros to invest have the possibility to use a trial period. That's why it was created. And we all know that people often create several accounts. It's an open secret that people openly promote circumvention methods because they think they're vigilantes, that's being a moron who just wants to do harm and get noticed for a bogus cause. Yes, there is a contribution to pay, HUGE, 15 euros per year. Because behind it there is support, technical and logistical, an assured future and evolution.now if all that doesn't suit you, you go away, but you don't piss off the others like a 5 year old child who is angry that he doesn't have the same toys.I'll continue to ban your ips one after the other. You'll get sick of it before I do.
The system is the way it is, whether you like it or not. It won't change for you. But you are free to walk away. I even encourage you to do so.
Concerning the trial period, it will not disappear, because I think that there are honest people, who do not necessarily have the possibility to pay this contribution and who need one or two partitions. Especially in other countries where 15 euros can quickly represent much more than in France.
Unknown
05/06/2015
no !!!! it is not necessary to say that; if you want to interpret exactly my thought (in its terms) I ask that you be understanding towards the people who invest themselves plainement. 1°) you attack cindou which makes a remarkable work and is, by encouraging the competition. 2°) the rights of authors: our site proved its honesty, by withdrawing the pieces; of the authors who wished it. On the other hand the scores (goal of our passion) resulting from old editions and today, unfortunately disappeared, "not absolutely nothing of illegal" quite on the contrary they live again thanks to us, moreover I know heirs who carry out research conserning their ailleuils, thing possible thanks to this site. (TO KNOW !!!!! touches of the royalties, that if those are played and declared to the sacem! ) Question, has who profits its rights if its pieces are unknown to us. To finish, you full to find nothing in store, do not you find here what you seek?
pontiac
05/06/2015
Hello to all,

I read like many certainly this topic by wondering if all this has a direction...

I understand the anger of Cindou for the time spent to make P-A attractive, a space of exchange, a rich mine of partition with especially the contribution of other members.

Unfortunately the virtual world is much less regulated than the real world, although sometimes...
The copyright law exists with its interpretations and organizations, just this one here:

http://www.myriad-online.com/images/forum/droits_dauteur.pdf

As you can see, protected works, works in the public domain etc... are not easy to decipher.

P-A makes it possible to make perdure to see preserve sometimes very old partitions as more recent for the pleasure of all.
The fifteen euros... it is logical to understand that any structure that grows requires time (thanks to Cindou as well as to the unpaid site workers!), but also a few euros for hosting depending on the capacity.

It is obvious that the "pumping, looting" let's call it as we want is a reality and for many other domains. Bans, IPs are easily bypassed by a few connoisseurs.

To conclude I want to say that this topic may lead to slippage, settling of scores, laws interpreted according to etc. ... In short, nothing good for what music represents.

The authors, the arrangers, the publishers are the first ones who should have their say, it was the case for Basile I think whose decision was respected, everyone has the right to assert what he thinks right but I do not think it is the members to be their advocates.

I support the team of P-A for their work through this beautiful library of scores that is offered to us, inevitably there are and there will always be "excesses" through some people.


Hoping that P-A will find calm, look out the window instead of the screen from time to time, life is not so bad.

Sincerely


pontiac
ChantalCAISAU
06/06/2015
Cuckoo. Totally ok cindou. Agree with jurochromatique 15 € c symbolic considering the choice offered and the ease of access. No need to run to the stores to find what you are looking for... Everything is there. For beginners like me it's practical if you think to evaluate the level of the piece of course. thank you all. Let's preserve our great site. The kiss
jodi
06/06/2015
Good evening, let's be courteous and have good intentions towards each other.
A lot of criticism from Krysto, but isn't he maybe the first to "throw" our scores on another site.
I have been quoted in this debate so I am responding.
You should know, Sir, that just like Cindou 11 or Harmojack, I have more than 20,000 original scores and I take pleasure in scanning them and putting them on P-A. for the pleasure of all.
So, to remain polite and if you want to make your zeal with your derogatory and inappropriate remarks and as the majority of the members answered you, go to see elsewhere if you would not be better than on our site which is really convivial and pleasant to visit.
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